In this podcast interview, The New Yorker magazine’s Jiayang Fan discusses relations between China and America in the dawning era of Xi and Trump, with National Committee Senior Director for Education Programs Margot Landman on December 12, 2016.

Jiayang Fan is a staff writer at The New Yorker magazine, where she writes about China and Chinese-American politics and culture. Her work has also appeared in The New York Times Book ReviewThe New York Times Magazine, and the Paris Review, among other places. Ms. Fan was born in Chongqing, moving to the United States at the age of eight. She graduated from Williams College with a double major in philosophy and English literature. She received a Fulbright scholarship to spend a year in Korea.

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