Interviewed by National Committee President Steve Orlins, Professors Cohen and Lewis discuss the findings of their new book, Challenge to China: How Taiwan Abolished Its Version of Re-Education Through Labor. Their work draws attention to an under-appreciated aspect of legal reforms in Taiwan and asks how Taiwan’s experience might be relevant to its neighbor across the Taiwan Strait. (Note that this interview was conducted before the announcement at the Third Plenum that Re-education through Labor will be abolished.)