Samm Sacks and Kevin Xu join Graham Wester to discuss the export controls on Fable and Mythos, the rise of competitive Chinese open-source models, and the resulting question of U.S.-China AI leadership.
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Recent Videos and Podcasts:
Same Words, Different Meaning: The New U.S.-China Paradigm
Victor Shih shares the way the United States and China view their relationship with each other after the Trump-Xi meeting in May.
Washington’s New AI Lockdown: The Fight to Control AI
SCMP reporter Vincent Chow joins us to explain Washington’s new approach to AI and what that means for U.S.-China relations.
China’s Economic and Security Interests in the Arctic
Elizabeth Wishnick joined us to discuss China’s economic and security interests in the Arctic and China’s reception in the region.
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